Hank Phillippi Ryan: When Barbara Ross and I met, we didn’t know we were meeting.
(She’s laughing right now, because she knows this story. And it is a GREAT one.)
It was a million years ago… well, seriously, only fifteen. I was taking a class in mystery writing at the Boston Center for Adult Education, and on the last day of classes (I think there were four) we were supposed to read out loud from what we’d written.
I had like, two pages. Introducing like, FIFTEEN characters. It was a disaster, and doesn’t exist anymore.
But there was this other woman, no idea of her name, who read her first two pages, and they were FABULOUS. FABULOUS. So fabulous that they haunted me for the next ten or so years. I thought about them all the time.
Fast forward fast forward… I write, join Sisters in Crime, I make friends. It’s all good. A new pal, Barbara Ross, asks me to blurb her new book, called Death of an Ambitious Woman.
I say, happy to. I start reading. IT IS THE SAME BOOK.
That is one of my favorite stories ever.
And here is Barbara now, an Agatha Nominee for Best Novel! And she’s now on her fourth book. Like I said, love it. And I also love her answers to Not Quite Twenty Questions.
Title of your autobiography?
She Had a Good Laugh.
Book you wish you had written?
So, so many books. Can I give you two short stories? “The Woman in the Wardrobe,” by Robert Barnard, which I think is the perfect crime short story, from Death of a Salesperson and Other Untimely Events. And “The Bear Came Over the Mountain,” by Alice Munro. Or almost any story by Alice Munro.
Okay, so now I have to add “Horseman,” by Richard Russo, because it is also perfect.
Movie you would see again and again?
I am a person who will watch movies again and again, like a child gaining comfort from having the same story read over and over. Right now I have watched, more times than I care to admit, Richard Curtis’s time traveler movie, “About Time.” Not a critical success, certainly schlocky, but I absolutely love it. And its score.
Exotic drinks–yes? No?
Yes, preferably in a tropical climate. In Key West where we spend time every winter, you can get a pitcher of margaritas “to go,” which blows these New Englanders’ minds.
When in history would you choose to visit?
From just before the American Revolution through the ratification of the Constitution. Okay, I know that’s 20+ years. But I think this is one of those times in history when not one extraordinary person, but a confluence of extraordinary people came together to do something so amazing it still takes my breath away.
If I can’t do that, I’d like to go see Shakespeare work with his actors at the Globe.
What are you working on now?
The third book in the Maine Clambake Mystery series, Musseled Out, which is, er was, due June 1.
The amazing and supportive Bill Carito. And I say that not only because he develops all the recipes for the Maine Clambake Mysteries and I am currently on a deadline, though that certainly doesn’t hurt.
Will you ever look at a clambake the same way?
I guess not. If I’m at a clambake, I’ll always, on some level, be doing research. That’s always the risk when you turn something you love into work, which is why I thought long and hard about whether I wanted to be a working writer with deadlines and contracts and stuff. (Of course, in the end, I decided that I did.)
So, clams aside. Pizza or chocolate?
One needs both salty and sweet, no?
I seem to have elevated my former hobby of writing to my profession, so what does that leave? I have been quite a dedicated scrapbooker, though my supplier went bankrupt and that has left me bereft. The pieces of our January 2013 Cuba trip are still all over my desk. Plus I seem to be the only person in the world who doesn’t want to scrapbook digitally. But when you spend all day staring at a computer…
Used to, though not very well. Now I just look.
Two, a son and daughter, the son in his thirties and the daughter soon to be. Both excellent writers, by the way, though my son channels most of his creativity into creating video games as a hobby nowadays. Plus a wonderful daughter-in-law, an editor of audiobooks with a library degree (sense a theme?), and a fabulous one-year-old granddaughter.
Not currently. I had a mutt growing up, and a golden and then a rescue cocker as we were raising our family. I do miss having a dog, but with no kids at home, I also like being able to lock to door and wander off.
Fear or phobia?
The phone. Oh, how I hate, fear, avoid the telephone. It’s plagued me all my life. It’s terrible when your own kids know they’ll be the ones calling for pizza.
Thing you always say to yourself when writing?
“The only way to it is through it.”
Do you watch TV? What?
Yes. Love TV. I’m convinced if Dickens were alive now he’d be writing for HBO. This last season I’ve watched Mad Men, The Good Wife, Elementary, True Detective, Sherlock, Broadchurch, The Bletchly Circle. I could go on and on (and I have). Right now Bill and I are obsessed with Orphan Black.
Can you sing?
Kind of. I sang O Holy Night as a solo in sixth grade chorus. But I rarely get the opportunity.
Best concert you’ve ever seen?
Tanglewood, on the lawn with my parents, Bill, my kids, friends, assorted sister and brother-in-laws and the kid’s cousins. It poured beforehand, but the skies cleared just in time and the stars came out. I have no idea what we heard. It was about family, friends, great food and wine.
I can get more dishes in a dishwasher than anyone you know. It is my superpower.
Oh, very impressive! And practical. Do you have a motto? (What is it?)
“It is never too late to be what you might have been.” Which is most often attributed to George Eliot, though apparently no one can find the work it appears in.
Ever have a recurring dream or nightmare?
The most common one where you are in a familiar town driving on familiar streets and you go over a bridge and it’s a whole new place you’ve never been.
WHOA. I have never had that dream, and I have never heard of it. I love it, though. To me, it is very positive, and confident, and full of adventure.
What do you think that means?
Something about leaving the comfortable for the unknown, maybe? Just lately, I’ve been having dreams with intense physical effects. Like I was in a car with three businessmen I’d just met and we drove up over a roller coaster that was built for cars and I could feel the car dropping, dropping in my stomach. What is that about?
P.S. Cars aren’t really that prominent. I don’t know why both my examples are cars.
So funny, because there’s the not-so-confident part. (Do the businessmen look like your publisher and agent? Kidding.) What do you wish someone had told you?
Honey, it will all be okay.
Yup. That works for dreams, and for real life, too.
So Readers, let’s talk about—clambakes! Ever been to one? Or wanted to? And we’ll award a Barb Ross book to one lucky commenter!
Barbara’s bio (from her website):
Barbara Ross is the author of the Maine Clambake Mystery series. The most recent book, Boiled Over, was published in May 2014. The first, Clammed Up, was nominated for an Agatha Award for Best Contemporary Novel and the RT Book Reviews, Reviewer’s Choice Best Book Award for Amateur Sleuth, and was a finalist for the Maine Literary Award for Crime Fiction.
Barbara is a co-editor/co-publisher at Level Best Books, which produces an award-winning anthology of crime and mystery stories by New England authors every November. “Bread Baby” in Best New England Crime Stories 2014: Stone Cold was nominated for an Agatha Award for Best Short Story. Barbara also blogs with a wonderful group of Maine mystery authors at Maine Crime Writers and with a group of writers of New England-based cozy mysteries at Wicked Cozy Authors.
Barbara’s first mystery novel, The Death of an Ambitious Woman, was published by Five Star/Gale/Cengage in August, 2010. In her former life, Barbara was a co-founder and Chief Operating Officer of two successful start-ups in educational technology.
Barbara and her husband own the former Seafarer Inn at the head of the harbor in Boothbay Harbor, Maine. When they aren’t in Boothbay, she and her husband live in Somerville, MA.
HANK PHILLIPPI RYAN is the on-air investigative reporter for Boston’s NBC affiliate. She’s won 30 EMMYs, 12 Edward R. Murrow awards and dozens of other honors for her ground-breaking journalism. A bestselling author of six mystery novels, Ryan has won multiple prestigious awards for her crime fiction: the Agatha, Anthony, Macavity, and for THE OTHER WOMAN, the coveted Mary Higgins Clark Award. National reviews have called her a “master at crafting suspenseful mysteries” and “a superb and gifted storyteller.” Her newest thriller, THE WRONG GIRL, has the extraordinary honor of winning the 2013 Agatha Award for Best Contemporary Novel! A four-week Boston Globe bestseller, it was dubbed “Another winner” in a Booklist starred review and “Stellar” by Library Journal. She’s on the national board of Mystery Writers of America and 2013 president of national Sisters in Crime. Watch for her next novel, TRUTH BE TOLD, on October 7, 2014.
Visit her online at HankPhillippiRyan.com, on Twitter @hank_phillippi and Facebook at HankPhillippiRyanAuthorPage.
Funny thing about Barb’s phobia–when in a hotel room with three other phone-phobic writers, she bravely made three (count ’em, three) phone calls in search of food. Hunger is a wonderful motivator! Getting it delivered turned into a comedy of errors (and the reason, Hank, in case you wondered, that we missed the Malice auction).
I know, Kathy. I was very proud of myself. (And hungry!)
Oh HO! I can’t wait to hear the whole story..xoo
I know Barb, and I learned a few things! Another great interview. Thank you both!
What a fun interview. What Julie said! Although, I share that superpower, Barb. Just saying. And had NO idea about the, uh, phone problem.
Yeah, it’s a skill, huh? I use the “just see how much I can cram in” mode, but that is not always successful. Can you two come to our house?
Barb, I am so glad someone shares the phone phobia thing! Loved Death of an Ambitious Woman (you had me at the title), and love the clambake series–you hit all the right notes but made it look effortless.
I’ve been to one “real” clambake (not on a beach), sponsored by the Redmen Society (at least, I think that’s their non-PC name), which involved huge mounds of food and the timeless music of Dale and the Duds.
Edith and Sheila–The phone phobia things seems to be a ‘thing’ with writers. One other Wicked Cozy shares it.
And I really hate to talk on the phone, actually. Which is annoying for a reporter .But chatting on the phone? Nope.
Great interview! And I feel better – I thought I was the only person in the world who loved the movie “About Time” and it’s music! Love Barbara’s mystery series – always brings me back to family clambakes in York, Maine – good times even without mysteries to solve!
Louisa, I feel better. I thought I was the only person, too!
Oh, off to Netflix this. I love time travel things..
Did you see–what was the Jack the Ripper one with Macolm MacDowell?
I’ve never been to a clambake. Hadn’t even seen the Elvis movie with that title UNTIL I went to YouTube. FWIW, I didn’t expect to see palm fronds, tiki torches and fierce wooden masks. Such unique New England traditions. 😉 http://youtu.be/RhSSgWmfFk0 Seriously, though, I’m blessed to know Barb and delighted the clambake books are so well-loved! PS – Enjoy the Elvis serenade, Barb. 😉
Thanks, Rhonda. This is for you!
I’m wondering if I’ve ever been to a clambake..hmm. I have a vague memory of sausages and potatoes steamed with clams which almost made me swoon with wanting to leave. ANd a lot of sand in everything. Would that have been a clambake? Am I being too picky? 🙂
So funny! Just watched/ listened to them both. Who knew?!
Another fun interview. Love the secret talent! Never been to a clambake but it sounded so intriguing, nothing we did growing up in Indiana. And it’s nice to know someone else doesn’t love talking on the phone – and avoids it.
(this series of interviews will go on forever, right? please?)
Sally, yeah, right? We Hoosiers didn’t have anything like that…
And aw, thank you! Yes, I’m working on it–! So nice of you! YOu made my day..
Hank and Barb—LOVE this interview!
A pitcher of margaritas, Barb! Can you tell I’m from New England? But, we don’t even have those here in Tucson, Arizona where Cadillac margaritas are at the top of the menu!
I am a huge fan of anything Barb writes, and much the way she loves short stories by Robert Barnard and Alice Munro, I love her short stories! Have to stop gushing now. Sorry.
Note to Barb: Our daughter Jeanie left behind a box of scrapbooking supplies. She used to teach classes at the local Creative Memories store. She was passionate about making beautiful scrapbooks with memories that you could hold onto and touch—much the way she felt about books. I would love to send you the box of assorted supplies, and I know Jeanie would like that. If you would send me your address I will send them to you. reenDOTcarterATgmailDOTcom
Oh my goodness, Reine. I am overwhelmed both by the compliments and the offer. Will be in touch.
Good, Barb. You deserve it. I will bring the box in and get the supplies ready. I’m glad to find someone who will use them.
Correction: I should have said that I have yet to see A picture of margaritas—to go—even here in Tucson…
Love these interviews, Hank, and loved reading Barb’s answers. Great interview!
I love the interview and the song from “Carousel,” And this New Yorker has gone to a real live clambake. Does it count if all the food was shipped in and there was a pool? I was hired by a company just before they had their annual picnic, lucky me. It was in Connecticut; it was the first time I had lobster, but not the last! I do love Maine; it was so beautiful, and tasty.
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